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Shall we recall the Bush (Sr.) pardons and commutations, as long as we're on the topic of sleazebags?

Joe llen Deckert:
Misprision of felony (relating to illegal firearms sales), 18 U.S.C. § 4

Donald Alvin Dibble III:
Illegal possession of firearm with obliterated serial number, 26 U.S.C. §§ 5861(h) and 5871

Leo Friedman:
Mail embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. § 1709

Armand Hammer:
Making campaign contribution in name of another (misdemeanor), 2 U.S.C. § 440

Charles Arnold Jacobs:
Submission of false income tax return, 26 U.S.C. § 7206(1)

Mary Lou Peet:
Fraudulent transfer of property in contemplation of bankruptcy, 18 U.S.C. § 152

Robert Gary Rice:
Submitting false statements to Federal Housing Administration, 18 U.S.C. §§ 1010 and 2(b)

Billy Wayne Rodgers:
Transporting firearm in foreign commerce, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)
Insubordination in violation of Article 91, Uniform Code of Military Justice

Raymond Joseph Shovelski:
Conspiracy to accept kickbacks on Government contracts, 18 U.S.C. § 371 and 14 U.S.C. §§ 51 and 54

Douglas Bruce Fenimore:
Receiving and concealing stolen property, interstate transportation of stolen property, and bank robbery, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2314, 2315, and 2113(a) and (d)

Dorothy Christina Damush:
Conspiracy to transport stolen goods in interstate commerce, 18 U.S.C. § 371

David Feld:
Interference with agent of National Labor Relations Board (misdemeanor), 29 U.S.C. § 162

Mark Christopher Felling:
Theft of mail by postal employee, 18 U.S.C. § 1709

Howard William Fitzsimmons:
Embezzlement of Government property, 18 U.S.C. § 641

Garth Stuart Hancock:
Conspiracy to violate Commodity Credit Regulations, 18 U.S.C. § 371

Charles Walker Harrison:
Unlawful possession of narcotics without having paid transfer tax, 26 U.S.C. § 4744(a)

Geary Travis Holstead:Theft of mail by postal employee, 18 U.S.C. § 1709

Michael Dennis Larsen:
Bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. § 656

Mark Allen Nelson:
Involuntary manslaughter in violation of Article 119, UCMJ

Robert Anthony Pagnanelli:
Conspiracy to defraud United States and mail fraud, 18 U.S.C. §§ 371 and 1341

William George Spurlock:
Interstate transportation of stolen motor vehicle, 18 U.S.C. § 2312

Harold Bennett Stewart:
Theft of Government property, 18 U.S.C. § 641

Bernice Lena Telgemeier:
Attempted income tax evasion, 26 U.S.C. § 7201

Julius Henry Telgemeier:Attempted income tax evasion, 26 U.S.C. § 7201

William Newton Tunnell, Jr.:Bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. § 656

Robert Lee Warner:
Obstruction of mail, 18 U.S.C. § 1703

James Alexander Womack:
Possession of stolen mail, 18 U.S.C. § 1708

Joseph Berger:
Transporting gambling devices within a special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, 15 U.S.C. § 1175

Miles Oakley Bidwell:
Filing false statement, 26 U.S.C. § 7206

Edward Meredith Dawsey:
Making false statements to the Office of Workmen's Compensation Programs, 18 U.S.C. §§ 1001 and 1920

Leonard Gilmor:
Mail fraud and aiding and abetting, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2 and 1341

Lewis Isador Goltz:
Sale of firearms to out-of-state resident, failure to register firearms, failure to make appropriate entry in firearm acquisition disposition records, 18 U.S.C. §§ 922 and 924

Wayne Stanley LaTour:
Dealing in firearms without a license, 18 U.S.C. § 922

Thomas Leoutsakos:
Sale of methamphetamine (misdemeanor) 21 U.S.C. § 331

Mary Mahoney Longwell:
Embezzlement of bank funds, 18 U.S.C. § 656

Chapman Portwood:
Forgery, 18 U.S.C. § 495

Laurie Virginia Rossetti:
Engaging in the conduct of an illegal gambling business, 18 U.S.C. § 1955
Myra Soble:
Conspiracy to receive and obtain national defense information and transmit same to foreign government, 18 U.S.C. § 793

Rudolph Hartsel Young:
Embezzlement of postal funds and falsification of postal records, 18 U.S.C. §§ 1711 and 2073

Caspar W. Weinberger:
(Iran/Contra Pardons:
See Proclamation No. 6518; 57 Fed. Reg.
62,145 (1992))

Elliott Abrams:
(Iran/Contra Pardons:
See Proclamation No. 6518; 57 Fed. Reg.
62,145 (1992))

Duane R. Clarridge:
(Iran/Contra Pardons:
See Proclamation No. 6518; 57 Fed. Reg.
62,145 (1992))

Alan Fiers:
(Iran/Contra Pardons:
See Proclamation No. 6518; 57 Fed. Reg.
62,145 (1992))

Clair George:
(Iran/Contra Pardons:
See Proclamation No. 6518; 57 Fed. Reg.
62,145 (1992))

Robert C. McFarlane:
(Iran/Contra Pardons:
See Proclamation No. 6518; 57 Fed. Reg.
62,145 (1992))

Joseph Bear, Jr.:
Burglary on Indian Reservation, 18 U.S.C. § 1153

Thomas Burley Berry:
Detaining and destroying mail, 18 U.S.C. § 1703(a)

Robert William Dailey, Sr.:
Failure to report for induction into the military in violation of the Selective Training and Service Act of 1940, 50 U.S.C. App. § 311

Paul Karsten Fauteck:
1. Interstate transportation of stolen motor vehicle, 18 U.S.C. § 2312

2. Conspiracy to smuggle alien into United States and attempting to conceal alien, 18 U.S.C. § 371 and 8 U.S.C. § 1324

3. Transporting false securities in interstate commerce, 18 U.S.C. § 2314

4. Absent without leave from Army and wrongful disposition of government property

5. Absent without leave

Dale Leonard Fix:
Failure to report for military duty in violation of Selective Service Act of 1940, 50 U.S.C. App. § 311

Francene Geiger:
Bank embezzlement, 18 U.S.C. § 657

Ivan Leon Gentry:
Transporting stolen motor vehicle in interstate commerce, 18 U.S.C. § 408(a)

Joseph Gordon Haynie, Jr.:
Misapplication of bank funds, 18 U.S.C. § 656

Henry Levin:
Violation of Customs regulations, 18 U.S.C. § 545

Guillermo Medrano Moreno:

1. Failure to register as narcotics user, 26 U.S.C. § 473

2. Illegal importation and sale of heroin, 21 U.S.C. § 174; 26 U.S.C. §§ 4704(a) and 4705(a)

Frank T. Passini, III:
Possession and sale of 5,000 grams of marijuana and wrongful possession of 50 grams of marijuana in violation of Article 134, Uniform Code of Military Justice

Donald Rightmire:
Misprision of a felony, 18 U.S.C. § 4

Edwin Roberts:
Carrying on the business of a distiller, possessing an unregistered whiskey still, and making and fermenting mash fit for distillation, 26 U.S.C. §§ 2033, 2810, and 2834

Patrick James Sheehan:
Misapplication of bank funds, 18 U.S.C. § 656

Hildred Earl Spates:
Theft of government property, 18 U.S.C. § 641

Alfredo Encinas Villarreal:
Theft of mail by postal employee, 18 U.S.C. § 1709

Jack Alvin Walker:
Failure to report for military duty in violation of Selective Service Act of 1950, 50 U.S.C. App. § 462

Carl Frank Westminster, Jr.:
Possession, sale, and transfer of controlled substance in violation of Article 92, Uniform Code of Military Justice

Joseph Occhipinti:
Conspiracy to violate civil rights, deprivation of rights under color of law (misdemeanor), and making false statement, 18 U.S.C. §§ 241, 242, and 1001

Robert Edward Leigh Barnhill:
Bid rigging in violation of Sherman Antitrust Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1

George Edward Clements, III:
Knowingly making false declarations before grand jury, 18 U.S.C. § 1623

Edwin L. Cox, Jr.:
Bank fraud, 18 U.S.C. § 1344

Lloyd Earl Davis:
Making false entries in bank records, 18 U.S.C. § 1005

James Lewis Donawho:
Making false statement to government agency, 18 U.S.C. § 1001

John Stinson Howell, III:
Income tax evasion, 26 U.S.C. § 7201

Charles Elvin Huffman:
Larceny on a government reservation, 18 U.S.C. § 661

Thomas Arthur Kardashian:
Offering gratuities to public officials, 18 U.S.C. § 201(f)

Frederick Irwin Lorber:
Obtaining marijuana without paying transfer tax, 26 U.S.C. § 4744(1)

Richard Norris Ware:
Aiding and abetting bank embezzlement (misdemeanor), 18 U.S.C. §§ 2 and 656

Albert Teyechea Williams:
Conspiracy to misapply bank funds, 18 U.S.C. § 371

Clyde Henry Umphenour, Jr.:
Interstate transportation of forged securities, 18 U.S.C. § 2314

Aslam P. Adam:
Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute heroin, importation of heroin, and use of mail in committing felony, 18 U.S.C. § 2, and 21 U.S.C. §§ 841(a)(1), 846, 952(a), 960(b)(1)(A), 963, and 843(b)


Since you're a Republican and hate Democrats, Clinton simply becomes a convenient object of your hatred. I could give you a laundry list of infinitely more serious infractions that GWB has committed since being in office (not to mention before he was in office -- i.e., just because Dan Rather's documents were probably false, doesn't mean that Bush did his duty to his country).

But ah, it seems I have begun to do what I accuse you of doing. Actually, I don't hate Republicans. I voted for Bob Dole and would maybe do it again. I like some of them. But people like George Bush get to where they are not because of talent, intelligence, or even because of luck. They get where they are out of a very carefully orchestrated plan (not a plan that Bush himself could dream up) to smear competitors and leave any ounce of political integrity in the dust. I would rather have a million pardons than 2000 plus dead US soldiers in Iraq, 10 times more who have been wounded in combat, untold more who are now psychologically scarred for life, tens or even hundreds of thousands more Iraqi people (the vast majority innocent, harmless people) dead or devastated. I'm sorry, but it's unjustifiable.

Maybe if we had put pressure on Iraq for a few years and they still hadn't backed down, then I can see going to war. And then, we could have made the rest of the free-thinking world see the necessity to go to war. And then guess what? We wouldn't be fighting this thing so alone. Do you really think that the answer to the insidious problem of global terrorism is going to be contained by the US and a couple of other allies? And to the extent it can be contained for now, don't you think it could be a better war on terror if we were working with these other nations? Do we really need to make France and Russia our enemies too at a time like this? I can't believe that any rationale individual cold think this is a good idea. And yet, your side seems to think we'd be just fine to pull out of the UN charter. Brilliant strategy. Let's see how good our economy is when we've spent ourselves into the ground trying to fight terrorism when it would have been a much smarter and cost-effective strategy to have more allies spending their money to help us. Now there's an argument you might like.


Remebering the past and obsessing over it are two very different things.


True, Stephen. But then, "Those who forget the past are condemed to repeat it." Seems we can't win either way, eh? :)


Obsession is an unhealthy thing.

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